Curse

Ken Dei · Mar 11, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

I was fighting in RA tonight. Now normally when a pet comes at me, I don't worry much. Well tonight was different, suddenly as the pet stood next to me biting me, I was taking damage form.....Balthazar's Aura.

No one else was next to me NO ONE, I was in the back. This means that you can cast Balth's Aura on your pet. That's very, very bad.

If you need an example of an abusive build.

E/?? Wards
4 Mo/R with Pets and Smiting
2 Mo/?? With healing and protect
-1 other

Bam you have a no brains build WORSE then IWAY.

4 Pets charging in with Balth spamming out of them? Even if your team scatters with running skills, you're still basically screwed. The moment you stop to fight again, Balth's is taking you out again.

So, regardless of whether this is a bug, or a poorly choosen attribute of the spell, it needs to be fixed.

Winterclaw · Mar 11, 2006, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Ooo IWAY with monks instead of necros. If you manage to kill the pets, the warriors start IWAYing and then the monks use balth's aura on them.

I wonder what other neat things you can do with pets. For so long those bloody things were worthless.

Joking aside, as far as I can tell with searches, iway has been going on for 3 months now so it probably it time for it to fall out of favor.

Lowly Peasant · Mar 11, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Balthezars can be cast on any friendly unit, be it some random NPC, to a pet, to a Team mate. This is no bug, just a new tactic to adjust to and not whine about.

Toben_Hexx · Mar 11, 2006, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Like when playing Mortal Kombat with your friend who loves to win everytime by doing the same move over and over, find a way around it. If it works people are going to use it and seeing as it's a battle, the concept of 'fair' should be out of mind.

Mercury Angel · Mar 11, 2006, 07:39 AM // 07:39

This isn't new at all. Petway, smite style. Glyph of Renewal + Divine Spirit to spam 5 cost spells quickly is supposed to be popular too.
The problem with using a pet instead of a player is that they're not the brightest things, they are slow to change targets, and they don't call hexes/conditions on themselves.
Though, I will concede that Draw Conditions is a huge part of the spammable 5 cost spells, making Crippled a useless counter condition.

Edit: Not intended to be an insult in any way. Just pointing out that despite the build being open and shared among the public, it's not widely used, and that's generally for a reason. One can only speculate, but I'd guess it's just that pets are so unreliable.

Something that actually needs to be fixed about Balthazar's Aura is that the graphic doesn't seem to be appearing on allies anymore, as far as I can tell.

j0j081 · Mar 11, 2006, 08:01 AM // 08:01

[QUOTE=Winterclaw]

I wonder what other neat things you can do with pets. For so long those bloody things were worthless.

QUOTE]
I wouldn't say that. With my w/r pet has come in quite handy at certain times.

art_ · Mar 11, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

lol. you only just noticed this??

Grosbilloux have been running this in tombs for a while.

CyberNigma · Mar 11, 2006, 08:27 AM // 08:27

heh, yeah its called Smiteway.. I use it sometimes in ToPK even. Its tough to control the pets though so it doesn't always work out. They don't know to stop chasing enemies into a dozen other mobs.. I've used it in PvP a bit, but nothing special.

Greedy Gus · Mar 11, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37

It's just called pet smiting and has been about since before iway

JediKnight · Mar 11, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Why is it that as soon as someone comes up against something they can't beat, they ask for it to be nerfed?????

People should learn from nature: Adapt or Die!!!

M3lk0r · Mar 11, 2006, 12:08 PM // 12:08

I used to have loads of fun with this with my ranger with Fer. Strike for energy.

/Points
/Laughs

Bleidd · Mar 11, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I normally stay out of these kind of threads but seriously. Someone comes at you with something you haven't seen before, your ass gets spanked, or hell, you even pull off a victory in spite of it, and folks come here and demand it be changed.

Its going to take no-armour matches with Candy Cane weapons before some folks will be completely satisified. oO

Defender Of Orth · Mar 11, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Okay, I was running that alot in RA last night...its not that hard to counter

ENCHANT REMOVERS

Stop bitching, go play RA, and dont make useless threads

Winterclaw · Mar 11, 2006, 01:30 PM // 13:30

Frag, for a while whwn I was first playing rangers were greatly under appreciated pets in particular were especally worthless.

TomD22 · Mar 11, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Dei

I was fighting in RA tonight. Now normally when a pet comes at me, I don't worry much. Well tonight was different, suddenly as the pet stood next to me biting me, I was taking damage form.....Balthazar's Aura.

No one else was next to me NO ONE, I was in the back. This means that you can cast Balth's Aura on your pet. That's very, very bad.

If you need an example of an abusive build.

E/?? Wards
4 Mo/R with Pets and Smiting
2 Mo/?? With healing and protect
-1 other

Bam you have a no brains build WORSE then IWAY.

4 Pets charging in with Balth spamming out of them? Even if your team scatters with running skills, you're still basically screwed. The moment you stop to fight again, Balth's is taking you out again.

So, regardless of whether this is a bug, or a poorly choosen attribute of the spell, it needs to be fixed.

You've been able to smite off've pets for ages (indeedas far as i know, for ever). I've run smiting builds in TA with pets - they worked, but not especially better than other TA builds i've used. This isn't new, it isn't overpowered, and it isn't hard to deal with.

LifeInfusion · Mar 11, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

smiting off pets is a very old tactic. All you have to do is chillbains + plague touch.

lyra_song · Mar 11, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48

Ive played the Petsmite build, its pretty weak vs necros/mesmers. And when your pet dies, you're screwed.

Theres no reason to nerf this, its a novelty build and until they buff pet AI, it will continue to be a novelty build only worthy of random arena.

Lykan · Mar 11, 2006, 01:52 PM // 13:52

its not called petway or smiteway

The name is Pokeway!

Grimm · Mar 11, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55

<sarcasm>
OMG! I was in RA the other day and I saw a R/Mo cast healing breeze on a pet! Aparently you can cast breeze on pets too! OMG this is so overpowered and such an exploit! OMG OMG ZOMGZ!!! A pet with mending = an unstoppable killing machine tank of death!!! OMG!
</sarcasm>

You know what? Prepare for your head to explode in shock/horror/confusion, but any spell that targets an "ally" can be used on a pet.

sledgeunderhill · Mar 11, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38

There's a build for PvE that did this months ago - try searching on "Nuclear Pet".